catopsilia species?

wessels-motten

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Wednesday, January 5th 2011, 4:19pm

catopsilia species?

Hello all,

I Just prepareted a Catopsilia species but I don't exactly know the name. I think its a Catopsilia florella. But I'm not sure...
Who knows the excact name??

Greetings wessel Herrewijnen

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Kumo

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Wednesday, January 5th 2011, 9:10pm

Catopsilia florella seems to be yellower, but I don't know if your photo is darker than the real colour of the specimen.

Skandinavisk

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Thursday, January 6th 2011, 12:24am

Quoted from "wessels-motten"

Hello all,

I Just prepareted a Catopsilia species but I don't exactly know the name. I think its a Catopsilia florella. But I'm not sure...
Who knows the excact name??

Greetings wessel Herrewijnen

A species of Phoebis? Doesn't look like a Catopsilia with those reddish colors.

wessels-motten

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Thursday, January 6th 2011, 8:20am

Quoted from "Skandinavisk"

A species of Phoebis? Doesn't look like a Catopsilia with those reddish colors.

Could also be, but the underside of this butterfly looks very much like a Catopsilia florella, so I thought that that could be the correct species.

Quoted from "Kumo"

Catopsilia florella seems to be yellower, but I don't know if your photo is darker than the real colour of the specimen.

no, this are the real collors. So as you can see the underside of the wings are a bit orange...

Greetings Wessel Herrewijnen

Merlin

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Thursday, January 6th 2011, 11:01am

Porbably Phoebis

Hello Wessel,

I think it looks like Phoebis avellaneda (Cuba, e.g.).* The species maybe variable and the genus may have more species, which fit better.

It is allways helpful to know where the butterfly was captured.

Greetings

*Paul Smart: Enzyklopädie der Schmetterlinge 1977, S.168.
quite expensive
2nd link
3rd link

Genus Phoebis

Merlin

jabdoulaye

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Thursday, January 6th 2011, 11:39am

Hallo,
I agree to Holger.
This would facilitate everything.
Phoebis is only living in America,Catopsilia only in Asia and some parts of Africa.
Best regards
Hans

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Thursday, January 6th 2011, 12:22pm

Hallo
Some forms/Subspezies of Catopsilia philea are also with a lot of red in the coulors. Expecially the females.
Greetings Christoph

wessels-motten

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Thursday, January 6th 2011, 4:49pm

Hello all,

Thanks for all comments... I think Phoebis avellaneda is the correct species, so thanks Holger and Hans! Also, I saw the pictures of Catopsilia philea but this the upside of this butterfly looks really different as my butterfly. So, really thanks for your tip but I agree with Holger and Hans!

Greetings Wessel Herrewijnen

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Wednesday, January 12th 2011, 11:56pm

Catopsilia or Philea

I don't believe it would be Catopsilia pomona form pomona (from Asia) female :

a) C. pomona has a yellow colour
b) the shape of the black dots on the fore wing is regular and that's not the case on this picture.

(I checked in my books and on my own collected samples).

It looks much more like a neotropical butterfly (female, of course) :

Phoebis avellaneda (Cuba, Haïti, Dominican Rep.) or Phoebis philea ?
It's certainly a Phoebis according the form of the black dots on the FW (irregular). D'Abrera shows different ssp. (females) :

- P. p. huebneri : Cuba
- P. p. thalestris : Haïti, Dominican Rep. & Piuerto Rico
- P. p. philea : Mexico to southern Brazil.

Your sample looks more like the ssp. huebneri . But, it's not so easy to distinguish huebneri from thalestris. Ssp. philea presents orange colour on the HW marginal area.

Anyway, it would be easier knowing the geographical origin !!!