Which species?

wessels-motten

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Saturday, July 2nd 2011, 8:59pm

Which species?

Hello all,

who knows the names of these two species.

The one on picture 1 is about 1,5 cm long and the other ones on picture 2 are about 2,5 cm

Regards Wessel Herrewijnen

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Tuesday, July 5th 2011, 9:10am

Burma, Myanmar

Helle everybody,

the ones on picture two are from Burma/Myanmar (Tenasserum)

I hope this helps...

I can make new photos of the beetle on picture one because that picture is not very clear.

Regards Wessel Herrewijnen

AlexK.

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Tuesday, July 5th 2011, 1:39pm

Hi,

It's difficult to say, but i think

1) is Scarabaeidae spec.

2) is Aphodiinae spec. <-- I'm not sure

Greetz

wessels-motten

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Tuesday, July 5th 2011, 2:09pm

New picture...

Hello all, here is the new and better picture...

I hope this helps.

Klaas Reißmann

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Wednesday, July 6th 2011, 8:53pm

How wonderful. I always like it, scientific names used in the wrong way. Scarabaeidae spec. = nonsens, Scarabaeus spec. = right. Question is, what did you mean? A member of the family Scarabaeidae or a member of the genus Scarabaeidae? the same mistake with Aphodiinae spec. A member of the subfamily Aphodiinae or a member of the genus Aphodius? Please use scientific names the right way.

#1 subfamily Scarabaeinae and possibly genus Scarabaeus, but not for sure

#2 subfamily Rutelinae, something close related to genus' Anomala and Mimela

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Klaas

wessels-motten

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Wednesday, July 6th 2011, 10:02pm

Hi,

I'm not sure but could #1 be a Phanaeus species?

Thanks,
Wessel Herrewijnen

Klaas Reißmann

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Friday, July 8th 2011, 9:54pm

No. Phanaeus do have a horn on top of the head. This one has got the typical form (especially the fron part) of a Scarabaeus, so it is a Scarabaeus or a genus very close related to Scarabaeus.

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Klaas

wessels-motten

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Friday, July 8th 2011, 10:13pm

Well, certain Phanaeus females don't have a horn on the top of the head....

You're right about the typical Scarabaeus form the beetle does have but do you know any subspecies of this species which can be a close genus to the one on picture 1?

Thanks and regards Wessel Herrewijnen

Klaas Reißmann

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Saturday, July 9th 2011, 4:25pm

No, sorry, I'm not fit in beetles out of Europe.

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Klaas

wessels-motten

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Saturday, July 9th 2011, 7:55pm

No problem, do you know any sites where I can search for more information about these species?

Klaas Reißmann

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Saturday, July 9th 2011, 9:55pm

No. If I would be more interrested in beetles of the world, I possibly would know any, but I don't. I'm much more interrested in the beetles of Centraleurope and Europe.

Regards

Klaas