Beiträge von PapilionidaeX99

Zitat von Menetriesi

Hi

I lived in Pakistan for 3 years. (2017-2020)

A great country for entomologists.

An absolute must is a tour to the Kaghan Valley

Many collectors make their first stop there in Shogran - a small village at an altitude of 2400 metres. There are several places to stay there. For butterflies, however, you have to climb a little higher to get out of the tree zone.

For light trapping, it is sufficient to stay close to the village.

If it is the right time of year, you should definitely continue to Naran and then up to Lake Saif-Ul-Muluk at an altitude of about 3,200 metres. This is one of the few places where Gonerda perornata flies. (I caught 5 specimens within 2 hours).

Basically, I would recommend travelling to the north-east of Pakistan.

Islamabad is a good starting point. Small generators, mostly made in China, are sold there at low prices. At the end of the trip, they are usually bought back by the dealer.

Renting a car (definitely an off-road vehicle) is much cheaper in Islamabad than in Western Europe. If you wish, you can hire a driver (approx. 80 euros (car and driver) per day).

There are plenty of places to stay in the region in all price ranges.

If your travel plans are more concrete and you still have questions, send me a PM.

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Thank you Menetriesi,

I have quiet a lot to ask about certain areas, but I will more focuse on daily butterflies, hunting with net, rather than catching moths on lights, though, if its that cheap, I have to give it a try. Wish you a pleasant evening, thanks, I will PM you

Regards,

Martin

Zitat von Klaas

I don't expect there will be much to enjoy if you travel to Iran next year. If you are looking for an adventure, it might be cheaper to travel to eastern Ukraine?

Will you cover my back?

Zitat von christobal

Hi, there is much to say about this idea/plan. I guess the main question is what you are looking for really. Do you want to collect butterflies in the field? Where is your main interest? In any case both countries require a lot of planning before leaving and in both countries you will need guides and/or drivers. In Iran there are additionally challenges, such as the language and non English street signs. Also not many people speak any English outside of the main cities (thus the guide). And then there is the current political situation there, which might entering the country difficult....

Another topic is that I would never recommend to travel in any of the two countries by yourself (i.e. alone). First of all this gets very expensive and with this kind of money you can also join a guided tour to such places as Kyrgyzstan which yield almost guaranteed success. Secondly for safety reasons you don't want to be alone in such places.... So the best would be to go with a friend or colleague with similar interest....

All the best and good luck to you, Christof

Hi Christof,

Thank you very much for your traveling tips, Im quiet aware of these aspects, so far I was in Nigeria, Ghana, Senegal and Cameron...except of Nigeria I traveled alone, on Nigeria I didnt had guts:-) Im sure, that African countries are far different from Arabian or Middle East countries in all kinds of perspective, but all in all, its also an adventure. Yes, to Kyrgyzstan, that is also an option, but I'd much rather travel to Iran to be honest. Wish you a great day and thanks!

Zitat von Policeman

Hallo Martin,

if you really want to make a excursion to IRAN or/and PAKISTAN,

I can show you the best/nicest moths of this countries in my collection.

In my pictures in ACTIAS you find -R. brandti- and -P. otus fulvescens (now P. hausmanni)-.

I have nearly all Arctiidae, Syntomidae, Lasiocampidae, Lymantridae ... of IRAN and PAKISTAN in my collection.

You need modern equipment and a lot of other things.

WEIDEN is very near Rozvadov/CZ and I invite you to visit me.

Butterflies of this countries in my collection, too. But not all.

If you are not speaking German, my wife speak Ukrain and Russian.

Her best girlfriend is CZ-Translater - direkt near my house.

Your trip needs a lot of planing.

manfred.stroehle@gmx.de

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Hi Manfred,

I would be very pleased to see your collection! That would been awesome, I dont speak German, I had only 2 years on high school and its quiet a long time ago, so remember only few phrases, as I never lived or worked in Germany, the English is so far sufficient for me for communication. I will send you e-mail, with some additional questions of mine, If you wont mind. I would also like to state, that Im more interested in day butterflies than moths, when it comes to moths...I'd although love to get breeding material and will be happy to see your collection. One never knows....maybe it can catch my attention and I can collect some moths aswell.

Wish you a pleasant day, I will e-mail you my phone number, do that we could set the details of the visit.

Martin

Zitat von Oberbayer

Hi Martin,

so my personal interest in a collecting trip there would clearly be the Arctiidae and Syntomidae.

Whether Iran or Pakistan, there is very little breeding material from these countries.

In Iran I would be personally interested in the species Axiopoena karelini and Axiopoena maura. They are the largest Palearctic Arctiids. In the case of the Syntomidae, it would be above all Amata beluchistana sp. (Location: Iran, Balucestan [Baluchistan], Kūh-eTāftan, Jam Chin, 2500 m).

If you get breeding material here, please contact me, I would be very interested.

Warm greetings

Rainer

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Hi Rainer,

I will definitelly contact you, if I get some interesting material, thank you very much for tips, I didn't expert such great feedback. I will stay in touch. Wish you great day!

Hi all, I do plan a collecting trip to one of these countries next year and would like to know, what would others focuse on being there. I'd rather travel to Iran, that is attractive for me also in other perspectives than butterflies, but it all depends on political situation in the country. On the other hand, I can say, that I do have friends in Pakistan and that could make whole descision and situation easier. Will be greatfull for any feedback of Your,

Thanks! Nice evening to everyone

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