Hyalophora cecropia overwinter question

    Hiya,

    I have some Hyalophora cecropia cocoons that were spun about 4-5 weeks ago, which is incredibly early for a univoltine species. I was wondering if it would be possible to ''trick'' them and make them think they have overwintered by putting them in the fridge for a month and then waiting to see if they'll emerge? I've kept the pupae intact in their cocoons and they're still alive as they wiggle when bothered.

    Cheers

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    Unlikely. I think it usually takes about 90 days of cold weather, and being spun up at the end of June isn't all that

    unusual, it depends on the conditions the larva were in- temperature, food plant quality, one time I sold some Hyalophora

    euryalus ova to a buyer in California, he raised his larva indoors, while I had mine sleeved outside, here on the central

    Oregon coast in the USA, a warm day in summer is mid 60's f, and the nights are cool, at any rate, he sent me pictures of mature

    larva while mine were still in L3 at best, his larva had matured in 40 days, and that would have been mid July.

    Interesting, thank you for the information, I had no idea there was a minimum of 90 days of cold weather. On a different note, I opened one of the cocoons and the pupa seemed incredibly well formed, which if I am not mistaken is a sign of imminent eclosion? Have you ever experienced or heard of Hyalophora having more than one brood per year?

    Not Hyalophora, and I'm just making an "educated" guess at 90 days, I think speaking with other breeders have

    given me that impression. Some Saturniidae and Sphinx , along with some butterflies are multi-brooded,

    Antherea polyphemus, Actias luna, a number of Sphinx species,

    The pupa would begin to darken, and sometimes it's possible to see the adult forming inside a pupa or chrysalis,

    pupa are often very lively , I've had Actias luna cocoons move all over a cage floor, and some respond to moisture,

    I've got some Manduca rustica pupa that wiggle every time I mist them. If you were sure you had food plant,

    one could manipulate the life cycle, perhaps you might break the diapause in a shorter time, but animals can also

    be affected by the length of daylight, that's part of many species development, and something you might want to be aware

    of if rearing during the winter, I've raised tropical Actias like isis and maenas during the winter and use lights to replicate

    an equatorial day cycle.

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