There is not many people who breed Ascalpha, and only just a few years ago was the caterpillar of T. agrippina discovered, so you can get a sense for how crazy it would be if someone had. I have several frieds who have had Ascalpha pupae that they found in the wild, but I do not believe anyone I know has had a successful hatching or breeding. The Noctuidae are quite challenging to breed and rear; I would suggest starting with Saturniidae if you have never reared moths before.
A little while back, in the prepandemic days, someone was offering blackwitch livestock, they had apparently reared
the moths and had some rearing tips, I don't recall anything but that the larva feed at night and escape easily if
not in a secure sleeve. I think the stock sold quickly, and I've never seen it since.
Maybe it was ova from a caught female... at any rate, not commonly offered.
I also tried to obtain a few eggs from Ascaphala odorata, a very common species in central america.
According to my experience the main problem is that it is very hard to get the female to lay some eggs.
I have asked Bart Coppens about this, and it appears that one of the reasons is because the male and female would need a massive cage for them to pair.
like 5 ft. by 5 ft.
So for some reason, they need a ton of space to get a viable pairing.
I also tried to obtain a few eggs from Ascaphala odorata, a very common species in central america.
According to my experience the main problem is that it is very hard to get the female to lay some eggs.
Well - if Bart Coppens tried to pair them it might also be true.
Did you ask him if he knows this from his own experience?
I tried to get a few wild caught females to lay eggs. So I can definitley refer to my own experiences.
Well - if Bart Coppens tried to pair them it might also be true.
Did you ask him if he knows this from his own experience?
I tried to get a few wild caught females to lay eggs. So I can definitley refer to my own experiences.
He has never personally tried to pair them, because it is so hard for other people to pair them, so nobody ever sells them really
So Bart must be a true master of butterfly breeding if he can give advices even if he has no own experiences in breeding a certain species .
There was a similar discussion a few days ago here. I already added some links to breeders who got some eggs. On Facebook there are a few stories and experiences about rearing of Thysania/ Ascalapha.
Best,
Toni
Interesting topic. I'm consigned to forums like this one, being banned from facebook, maybe I'm missing out,
but I like to think it's for the best.
Hand pairing is a skill, and even with my successes doing it, it doesn't always work. Videos make it look easy, and sometimes
it is, but keep in mind, no one is going to show their failures.
The adults would probably be like underwings and feed on mashed fruit.
Here some informations about Black Witch....
http://texasento.net/witch.htm
and others...
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